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…including many in control of the media. So they are encouraging the public’s demonisation of any attempts by Drs for pay increases. They don’t want it to succeed, they want Drs to keep on striking so public opinion towards the NHS changes & they are more open to privatisation.

I think sadly many people are very naive to how expensive healthcare actually is. They don’t realise that the best option would be paying Drs a bit more in the NHS, rather than a lot more privately. On the other hand, there are many people chomping at the bit for privatisation…

Exactly, me too. Paramedics are amazing at doing what they are trained to do. Which is not general practice

Not even a good lie. If Streeting had made an offer he thought would avoid the strikes, it would've been in the letter the government released. There's clearly no offer, just 'further talks'.

I see we're at the stage of the dispute where anonymous government sources lie to the Guardian in an attempt to divide us. Don't they know we are stronger than this? We ARE @TheBMA #DoctorsStrike

At that point people will realise, but like with Brexit it will be too late. I have found the reaction to the strikes quite scary - I genuinely think many people would have Drs permanently indentured to the NHS with no means to take any IA if they could.

It will be too late by then. It will be like how it is in the legal sector, where if you don’t have insurance, you have to have a pretty valuable claim for it to be taken on via a no win no fee arrangement. So many people who are not wealthy/high income cannot access justice.

I’m intrigued how the “doctors are parasites on taxpayers” crowd will feel when selling their houses to pay the sainted private sector to see those same doctors

No party could do away with the NHS without this. Drs continuing to strike gives a way for everyone to blame Drs for privatisation. No one is being honest that if we want the NHS to work it has to be funded properly by govt & not never-ending subsidisation by staff.

Even if you get a good quote, as soon as you start making claims it will skyrocket. And it won’t even cover everything, especially if you aren’t on a group policy where it has a ‘medical history disregarded’ clause. And even then they won’t cover management of chronic illness.

Put it like this: for a period of a yr I was on a personal insurance policy (instead of a group policy), & after a year the premium went from £250 a month to £400 because I made some claims. And my insurance didn’t even cover everything, in fact there was a lot it didn’t.

A good starting point is to look at current cost of health insurance in the UK. Then assume you *have* to pay that as a minimum. Then consider whether it is likely to rise or fall considering the inclusion of emergency care, intensive care, and so on…

There is a widening disconnect between the general public and NHS workers. We are tired of subsidising the service with our wages. Interesting to see how it all plays out.

First they came for the doctors. Next they’ll go after the nurses. If you think you’ll be spared when you do have a mandate, I have a bridge to sell you.

I mean, you can’t make this shit up…

What an utter mess. The billions spent on training PAs and implementing them. This was entirely avoidable. The role was not needed, it addresses no problem other professionals / roles could not solve. We will be paying for this mess yet again in court.

I think you're all forgetting the power of law firms & the press in this if non-enacted advisory measures from Leng lead to further patient harms. The clinical negligence costs The adverse press The possibility for a public inquiry or class action

I think it's just a load of banging his tin drum. Just like the previous 200k fundraising they wanted for 3 Test Employment Cases suing on grounds of discrimination against GPs, 1 of which he loudly announced was proceeding back in March, not a peep heard about them since 😑

Absolutely. But I remain unconvinced that this is what UMAPs goal actually is. For a start simply releasing all communications between them, the GMC, DHSC/NHSE, senior college members supporting them, etc would be a start, is completely within their control, and will cost nothing

Resident doctors train for years, work crazy hours, and carry heavy responsibility, yet their pay’s barely kept up with inflation. They deserve fair wages to keep skilled doctors in the NHS and provide proper care. It’s only fair they stand up for themselves. @wesstreeting