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Four 'ordinary' women who've fought for women's and girls' rights to safety, privacy and dignity at immense personal cost, taking on well-funded lobby groups, ideologically captured public bodies and a political class that treats women with contempt. Actual, real life heroines 🔥
At the #sandiepeggietribunal in Dundee with two solid gold heroines, Sandie & Roz Adams. Never underestimate the strain this process has. We are grateful for their courage.
This post has been viewed 322,400 times. No wonder NHS Fife Health Board wanted to stop @tribunaltweets from reporting. Citizen journalists -"a valuable service" as the Lawyer Magazine said.
KS I agree we shldnt have written these things in this group. I cant say whether it's been withheld. I dont think u can prove the emails were linked NC These emails werent produced for the 1st hearings were they? KS It appears not NC There were 6 of you in this chain
Members of @WRNScotland have been at the Sandie Peggie tribunal every day this week. It has been an astonishing week. We learned that every witness for NHS Fife was prepared to accept that Dr Upton was a woman and were prepared to wreck their professional reputation and…
Same w/‘moral panic’. The phrase gets most of its power from panicking being undignified; doubly so if it’s based on moralizing. But s/times you *should* panic. If male rapists in women’s prisons or surgical mutilation of confused teens don’t make you panic, wtf is wrong w/you
This drives me mad. People seem to think that if you call something (eg male rapists in women’s prisons) a ‘right-wing talking point’ this somehow cancels out the fact that it’s true
I did a talk to women’s charities explaining how post FWS they could choose to continue legally provide services to trans women by separating out the services so that each service has own admission criteria (and single sex services are truly single sex). wrc.org.uk/Blog/supreme-c…
Scottish Government urges equality watchdog to allow trans women access to services for women facing domestic abuse, homelessness or trafficking heraldscotland.com/news/25342397.…
Just as FYI to @NHSScotland, none of us are currently paid by FWS, but we would be excellent value and save you a shed ton of money...
If only NHS Fife had a head of human resources who could have stepped in to save taxpayers hundreds of thousands of pounds by resolving the Sandie Peggie/Dr Upton case before it reached court. It does, of course: David Miller, hired on a salary of up to £107,000 a year. 🧵
'Your evidence as an expert makes my client look like he's lying so you must be biased' may not go down in legal history as the best ever line of attack.
Dr Beth Upton 'misled' Sandie Peggie tribunal over phone notes he rewrote as they 'weren't properly examined' @daview96 @ScotExpress scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/…
Mat puts it simply and he puts it well. Basic stuff but if more men would find their inner Mat, this would all swiftly be over. The men who seek to walk all over women's boundaries are our fellow men and it is our role as men to police them, not leave it all to the women.
I’m the son, who doesn’t want my mum to face men in the women’s toilets I’m the husband saying no to letting men into my wife’s changing room. I’m the dad protecting his daughters rights to fairness. Who are you?
The Robin Moira White argument. It's vile.
Scottish follwers. The government up here thinks that if a mother wants to feel able to take her small boy somewhere with her, a loo or a DV shelter, say, this is the start of an argument for letting some men in women's spaces. It's too sleekit to say it out loud, though.
🎁 Trans doctor altered notes after changing room row, tribunal told thetimes.com/article/acee23…
CIPD created ‘trans inclusion’ guidance for 1,000s of UK employers – including govt depts and NHS - but ex-employee says: - CEO sided with Neeves when staff said trans training was 'sexualised' - 'Woman’ banned as ‘not inclusive’ - Landmark @MForstater judgment ‘ignored’ (2/3)
A point to note about the evidence today in Peggie v NHS Fife: Jane Russell KC was the first to suggest that the expert evidence on Dr Upton’s phone notes suggests that Upton has lied about the contemporaneousness of the notes. And she did it twice.
They said that they accepted the ruling, but it's clear that @scotgov haven't read a word! A service can be mixed sex or single sex - that is it!
Scottish Government urges equality watchdog to allow trans women access to services for women facing domestic abuse, homelessness or trafficking heraldscotland.com/news/25342397.…
Important development in Peggie v NHS Fife - a note that male doctor Dr Upton claimed was contemporaneous was actually altered later to include an alleged patient safety incident involving Sandie Peggie, the nurse suspended as a result of his complaints. heraldscotland.com/news/25341258.…
“Services are either single-sex or open to everyone, and there are no circumstances where it is legally possible to provide a service for ‘biological women and trans women’,” Trina Budge of For Women Scotland told The Herald. heraldscotland.com/news/25342397.…
Jim Borthwick's investigation revealed that Dr Upton had logged an interaction with Ms Peggie on December 18, 2023. It originally said: "Working nights. Won't make eye contact. Won't acknowledge my presence. "Not had direct conversation yet but I can feel the…
Thanks to @ONS for updating their service manual page on 'Sex, gender and gender identity' service-manual.ons.gov.uk/content/langua…
I am appalled, utterly appalled I tell you, to discover that there are people who are not in upper middle class jobs who get paid. Horrific, frankly.
‘Yes I will be paid Jane, as will you’ I like Jim 😊 He’s been asked to investigate and produce a report, why does she think it’s a gotcha that he is actually paid for his time?
Breaking! Thread. This is HUGE!! During the tribunal, the witness has lapsed into calling Dr Upton “he”. Jane Russell can’t have that and breaks in to remind the witness that we are all playing a game! This sounds to me like suborning perjury but what do I know. 1/.